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	<title>Comments on: Separation &#8230; which way to go? (Part 2)</title>
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		<title>By: Natator</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Natator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is really excellent to hear Al :)

I so need to get into doing more videos and am VERY frustrated at not having done any for so long.

In the next few weeks hopefully!!!!!

:)

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is really excellent to hear Al <img src='http://darksideofthelens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I so need to get into doing more videos and am VERY frustrated at not having done any for so long.</p>
<p>In the next few weeks hopefully!!!!!</p>
<p> <img src='http://darksideofthelens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: alcaine</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>alcaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Simon for your thoughts: you have put my mind at ease about investing time in learning Elements with a view to a future upgrade to CS4.

By the way I have already used with great success your lesson on layer masks.  I produced a couple of composite photos of people taken out of busy and unattractive backgrounds and now appearing surrounded by flowers and greenery.  I was amazed at the enthusiastic response I received from the people involved.  Thank you  - and looking forward to any new future articles or tutorials.

Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Simon for your thoughts: you have put my mind at ease about investing time in learning Elements with a view to a future upgrade to CS4.</p>
<p>By the way I have already used with great success your lesson on layer masks.  I produced a couple of composite photos of people taken out of busy and unattractive backgrounds and now appearing surrounded by flowers and greenery.  I was amazed at the enthusiastic response I received from the people involved.  Thank you  &#8211; and looking forward to any new future articles or tutorials.</p>
<p>Al</p>
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		<title>By: Natator</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Natator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alcaine, great question there.

I work in both CS4 and Elements, as you probably realise. Personally I prefer CS4 for most things simply as I am familiar with it and thus do not find it intimidating (any longer). In fact, I learned in Photoshop (5 or 6 I think it was) and only got into Elements later.

If I was starting from scratch now, yet with the benefit of hindsight, I would now learn in Elements and only progress up to Photoshop once I was at ease with that. The budget constraints are indeed important and I feel you are taking the right path with getting your lenses in order first.

The jump from Elements to Photoshop is really pretty seamless. You will probably start using Photoshop exactly the same way you had been using Elements. As you then explore further you&#039;ll simply find better ways of doing things, or that you can do new things you were simply not able to before.

As far as &quot;unlearning&quot; goes ..... I wouldn&#039;t worry at all. All your learning will still be valid, you&#039;ll just continue to grow and learn more.

I actually believe you will learn faster with the approach you have adopted ,,,, as yes, CS4 can be a little overwhelming.

Hope that helps.

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alcaine, great question there.</p>
<p>I work in both CS4 and Elements, as you probably realise. Personally I prefer CS4 for most things simply as I am familiar with it and thus do not find it intimidating (any longer). In fact, I learned in Photoshop (5 or 6 I think it was) and only got into Elements later.</p>
<p>If I was starting from scratch now, yet with the benefit of hindsight, I would now learn in Elements and only progress up to Photoshop once I was at ease with that. The budget constraints are indeed important and I feel you are taking the right path with getting your lenses in order first.</p>
<p>The jump from Elements to Photoshop is really pretty seamless. You will probably start using Photoshop exactly the same way you had been using Elements. As you then explore further you&#8217;ll simply find better ways of doing things, or that you can do new things you were simply not able to before.</p>
<p>As far as &#8220;unlearning&#8221; goes &#8230;.. I wouldn&#8217;t worry at all. All your learning will still be valid, you&#8217;ll just continue to grow and learn more.</p>
<p>I actually believe you will learn faster with the approach you have adopted ,,,, as yes, CS4 can be a little overwhelming.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: alcaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First things first: a big Thank You for the Elements video tutorials, they are just the right thing to reduce the feeling of helplessness when you realize how much there is to learn. Like the swimming coach who SHOWS you that you can actually float...

I see myself investing a fair amount of time learning Elements, but I do expect (or rather hope?) to move to CS4 at some point (for now my photography budget is being spent on lenses etc. for my 6-month-old DSLR. Also CS4 is still, to me, intimidating.)  

My question is: 
How different are the basic operations in both, e.g. handling layers? You have indicated in the Separation articles that the basic operations are more or less universal. But how much will I have to UN-LEARN if and when I &quot;move up&quot; from Elements (PE5) to CS4?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First things first: a big Thank You for the Elements video tutorials, they are just the right thing to reduce the feeling of helplessness when you realize how much there is to learn. Like the swimming coach who SHOWS you that you can actually float&#8230;</p>
<p>I see myself investing a fair amount of time learning Elements, but I do expect (or rather hope?) to move to CS4 at some point (for now my photography budget is being spent on lenses etc. for my 6-month-old DSLR. Also CS4 is still, to me, intimidating.)  </p>
<p>My question is:<br />
How different are the basic operations in both, e.g. handling layers? You have indicated in the Separation articles that the basic operations are more or less universal. But how much will I have to UN-LEARN if and when I &#8220;move up&#8221; from Elements (PE5) to CS4?</p>
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		<title>By: Natator</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Natator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to know you like them Mary :)

I use CS3 myself, and love it. The reason I did the tutorials for PSE is there seems to be all sorts of expert advice for PS but far less for PSE.  I didn&#039;t go the PS path simply as there was more of it already out there.

I would love to do PS tutorials as well, but am having real trouble even finding the time to do these. I&#039;d also love to do a book with a DVD ... but no time.

I admit, I wish I could do this stuff full time rather than as a weekend hobby.

:(

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to know you like them Mary <img src='http://darksideofthelens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I use CS3 myself, and love it. The reason I did the tutorials for PSE is there seems to be all sorts of expert advice for PS but far less for PSE.  I didn&#8217;t go the PS path simply as there was more of it already out there.</p>
<p>I would love to do PS tutorials as well, but am having real trouble even finding the time to do these. I&#8217;d also love to do a book with a DVD &#8230; but no time.</p>
<p>I admit, I wish I could do this stuff full time rather than as a weekend hobby.</p>
<p> <img src='http://darksideofthelens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: maryb</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>maryb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just watched your Layers videos and can&#039;t thank you enough.
 I have bought tutorials etc .. but  I wasn&#039;t getting it. Finally the LIGHT WENT ON!! Thank You. 
I have PSE6 but recently bought PSCS3 Extended.
Is it possible you will  have any videos for this version in the future? 
                Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just watched your Layers videos and can&#8217;t thank you enough.<br />
 I have bought tutorials etc .. but  I wasn&#8217;t getting it. Finally the LIGHT WENT ON!! Thank You.<br />
I have PSE6 but recently bought PSCS3 Extended.<br />
Is it possible you will  have any videos for this version in the future?<br />
                Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Natator</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Natator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, and spoil the surprise for myself Marc (as I have no idea what I&#039;ll do myself next ;)

Seriously though, if I get organised enough to do myself a plan I&#039;ll put it up here for sure.

:)

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, and spoil the surprise for myself Marc (as I have no idea what I&#8217;ll do myself next <img src='http://darksideofthelens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously though, if I get organised enough to do myself a plan I&#8217;ll put it up here for sure.</p>
<p> <img src='http://darksideofthelens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: malc1</title>
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		<dc:creator>malc1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m enjoying watching your videos, they&#039;re all very helpful. a list of what you&#039;re planning to do would be good to enhance the anticipation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m enjoying watching your videos, they&#8217;re all very helpful. a list of what you&#8217;re planning to do would be good to enhance the anticipation</p>
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		<title>By: Natator</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Natator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the congrats, he is turning into a very bouncy little baby and seldom stops smiling now.

I&#039;ve not used the Kodak s/w but have used similar. I have yet to find one of those &quot;freebies&quot; that come with the cameras th comes close to something like PSE (though I have come across older versions of PSE bundled with a camera.

How I can help you with the transition.

:)

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the congrats, he is turning into a very bouncy little baby and seldom stops smiling now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not used the Kodak s/w but have used similar. I have yet to find one of those &#8220;freebies&#8221; that come with the cameras th comes close to something like PSE (though I have come across older versions of PSE bundled with a camera.</p>
<p>How I can help you with the transition.</p>
<p> <img src='http://darksideofthelens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got PS Elements 7 as a Christmas present and it looks as though it will be a lot better than the free Kodak s/w I have been using to date - although it is certainly more complicated.  Located your videos online today and have already found the ones I&#039;ve looked at to be very helpful.  Thanks for taking the time to do them!

Congrats on the birth of your child! A lot of photo opps to be had there!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got PS Elements 7 as a Christmas present and it looks as though it will be a lot better than the free Kodak s/w I have been using to date &#8211; although it is certainly more complicated.  Located your videos online today and have already found the ones I&#8217;ve looked at to be very helpful.  Thanks for taking the time to do them!</p>
<p>Congrats on the birth of your child! A lot of photo opps to be had there!!</p>
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		<title>By: Natator</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Natator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kamrock

Really glad you are finding the videos of use. I hope to be producing a heap more over the coming weeks, once life settles down a little from having our new baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kamrock</p>
<p>Really glad you are finding the videos of use. I hope to be producing a heap more over the coming weeks, once life settles down a little from having our new baby.</p>
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		<title>By: kramrock</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>kramrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
Great videos.  They have been great help.  I just got Elements 7 a couple of weeks ago and already feel like a pro.  I especially liked the adjustment mask video and linking them together.  Having used these features a lot.  I am also a fan of the sponge tool especially for enhancing the eyes rather than changing the hue.  That way I can highlight certain areas with more color.  I would love to have the new cs4, but using Elements for photographs is really more than enough.  Keep up the great work and looking forward to more great videos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
Great videos.  They have been great help.  I just got Elements 7 a couple of weeks ago and already feel like a pro.  I especially liked the adjustment mask video and linking them together.  Having used these features a lot.  I am also a fan of the sponge tool especially for enhancing the eyes rather than changing the hue.  That way I can highlight certain areas with more color.  I would love to have the new cs4, but using Elements for photographs is really more than enough.  Keep up the great work and looking forward to more great videos!</p>
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		<title>By: Natator</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Natator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome aboard Brian, I am really glad you liked that video. I hope to get them all up soon(ish) in a higher quality as well (still free).

Layers is going to be attacked next due to absolutely overwhelming demand ... by you both ;)

I&#039;ll split layers over 2 or 3 videos, I&#039;ve just got to work out the best approach the cover the basics and then build from there. 

:)

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome aboard Brian, I am really glad you liked that video. I hope to get them all up soon(ish) in a higher quality as well (still free).</p>
<p>Layers is going to be attacked next due to absolutely overwhelming demand &#8230; by you both <img src='http://darksideofthelens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll split layers over 2 or 3 videos, I&#8217;ve just got to work out the best approach the cover the basics and then build from there. </p>
<p> <img src='http://darksideofthelens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cogger</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,  I have just come across your site, and I must admit, it looks very promising. I looked at your introduction to elements 6 and thought it to be very good. I have now added you to my favorites, and look forward to your news letter.
Brian

PS . I like Beth have trouble using Layers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,  I have just come across your site, and I must admit, it looks very promising. I looked at your introduction to elements 6 and thought it to be very good. I have now added you to my favorites, and look forward to your news letter.<br />
Brian</p>
<p>PS . I like Beth have trouble using Layers.</p>
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		<title>By: Natator</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Natator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Beth, and welcome.

I know what you mean. Layers are, I believe at least, about the most powerful thing going for photo editing. They can take a little to get your head around, but they are the sort of thing that suddenly goes CLICK! and makes sense.

I did have tutorials on layers planned for a little later down the track, but I&#039;ll bump them up the list for you and start to attack them probably the tutorial after the cropping as I am mid doing that one already.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Beth, and welcome.</p>
<p>I know what you mean. Layers are, I believe at least, about the most powerful thing going for photo editing. They can take a little to get your head around, but they are the sort of thing that suddenly goes CLICK! and makes sense.</p>
<p>I did have tutorials on layers planned for a little later down the track, but I&#8217;ll bump them up the list for you and start to attack them probably the tutorial after the cropping as I am mid doing that one already.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am having a tough time with layering.  I understand the concept but need step-by-step assistance in its application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having a tough time with layering.  I understand the concept but need step-by-step assistance in its application.</p>
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		<title>By: Natator</title>
		<link>http://darksideofthelens.com/2008/07/separation-part2/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Natator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Furlinger, and welcome

You&#039;ll love Elements I am sure. Be warned though, as you get more familiar with it, and start to do really fun things with your photos, it can become really addictive! 

I intend to start producing the video tutorials in the coming week. They won&#039;t be all up at once though, they are something I will be adding as I do them.

If you have anything specific you&#039;d like covered then let me know (either here as a comment or using the feedback form). I have a huge list of tutorials I&#039;ll be doing but the order, in most cases, is unimportant so if there is something specific people want I&#039;ll see if I can slot it in early.

:)

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Furlinger, and welcome</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll love Elements I am sure. Be warned though, as you get more familiar with it, and start to do really fun things with your photos, it can become really addictive! </p>
<p>I intend to start producing the video tutorials in the coming week. They won&#8217;t be all up at once though, they are something I will be adding as I do them.</p>
<p>If you have anything specific you&#8217;d like covered then let me know (either here as a comment or using the feedback form). I have a huge list of tutorials I&#8217;ll be doing but the order, in most cases, is unimportant so if there is something specific people want I&#8217;ll see if I can slot it in early.</p>
<p> <img src='http://darksideofthelens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Furlinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Furlinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article thank u.

I got Photoshop Elements last month which sounds like a good decision.

I have not got on very well with it as I have not had the time to learn it.

How long till u have the video tutorials up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article thank u.</p>
<p>I got Photoshop Elements last month which sounds like a good decision.</p>
<p>I have not got on very well with it as I have not had the time to learn it.</p>
<p>How long till u have the video tutorials up?</p>
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